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Poker: prial, prile, pryal?
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Lou Ravi
2009-12-27 18:19:36 UTC
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I was talking to a bloke about poker today and was reminded....

I played a little bit of poker donkeys' years ago, as one does during
dissolute youth, enough to lose that week's beer money in occasional
friendly games. We usually played with five cards, sometimes three. I've no
idea if we played by the "official" rules but everyone seemd happy enough
with them so they probably were.

One of the good hands, excellent in a three card game, was having three
cards of the same number. We called it, or pronounced it as in the header, a
'prial'. However the spelling might be prile, or something else. Most of us
lads had London accents and tended to stick dipthongues in where they
weren't supposed to be. I really couldn't say as I've never seen the word
written down, only heard it.

While having the chat about poker to the friend, I remembered the word again
and wondered about its etymology. I went to look it up, starting from the
French equivalent 'un brelan' expecting to get the correct spelling from
there via a translation, but all I got was "three cards with the same
number" as replies. I can't find prial/prile anywhere.

Anybody know this word or did the bloke who set our poker rules make it up?

If he did I want my money back.
Dave Budd
2009-12-27 19:22:37 UTC
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Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.

NB, poker is a 5 card game. The 3 card game is Brag.
You get prials in brag, in poker they're called trips or a set.
Tommy Harris
2009-12-27 19:28:30 UTC
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Post by Dave Budd
Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.
NB, poker is a 5 card game. The 3 card game is Brag.
You get prials in brag, in poker they're called trips or a set.
Have I told you to get fucked in the last couple of years?
Jaf
2009-12-27 19:37:34 UTC
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Post by Dave Budd
Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.
Yup. Prial, priol, prioll, all acceptable.
Post by Dave Budd
You get prials in brag, in poker they're called trips or a set.
A prial is three of anything, not just in cards.

2 of a kind =pair, 3 of a kind = pair royal, 4 of a kind = double pair
royal.
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Lou Ravi
2009-12-27 19:47:21 UTC
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Post by Dave Budd
Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.
Yup. Prial, priol, prioll, all acceptable.
OK. Thanks.
Lou Ravi
2009-12-27 19:46:36 UTC
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Post by Dave Budd
Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.
Sound good
Post by Dave Budd
NB, poker is a 5 card game. The 3 card game is Brag.
You get prials in brag, in poker they're called trips or a set.
OK
Matthew Vernon
2009-12-27 22:40:45 UTC
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Post by Dave Budd
Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.
Yeah, I've heard it described thus wrt cribbage.

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Prai Jei
2009-12-27 23:04:31 UTC
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Post by Dave Budd
Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.
Yeah, I've heard it described thus wrt cribbage.
Matthew
Although I've read of "pair royal" in Cribbage, I've never heard the
combination called that in practice, always "three of a kind", which scores
6 points because three pairs can be made from it (A+B, A+C, B+C) and each
pair scores 2 points.

Similarly four of a kind scores 12 points for six pairs.

I had heard the word "prial" to mean three of a kind in such games as Brag,
and the word had puzzled me because it didn't seem to be derived from the
word for "three" in any language I know, but I had not realised it was a
scrunching of "pair royal".

Is it true that the name of the card game Bridge comes from bir + üç, the
Turkish words for "one" and "three" respectively, referring to one hand
exposed (dummy) and three concealed? Note that Turkish ç is pronounced as
English ch.
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Peter Ward
2009-12-28 00:01:37 UTC
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Prai Jei says...
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Matthew Vernon set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
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Post by Dave Budd
Prial is a contraction of "pair royal", or so I've always been told.
Yeah, I've heard it described thus wrt cribbage.
Matthew
Although I've read of "pair royal" in Cribbage, I've never heard the
combination called that in practice, always "three of a kind", which scores
6 points because three pairs can be made from it (A+B, A+C, B+C) and each
pair scores 2 points.
Similarly four of a kind scores 12 points for six pairs.
I had heard the word "prial" to mean three of a kind in such games as Brag,
and the word had puzzled me because it didn't seem to be derived from the
word for "three" in any language I know, but I had not realised it was a
scrunching of "pair royal".
Is it true that the name of the card game Bridge comes from bir + üç, the
Turkish words for "one" and "three" respectively, referring to one hand
exposed (dummy) and three concealed? Note that Turkish ç is pronounced as
English ch.
Wiki says, "According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word bridge
is the English pronunciation of the game called "biritch". More info
here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_contract_bridge
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Fevric J. Glandules
2009-12-27 19:57:24 UTC
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Post by Lou Ravi
number" as replies. I can't find prial/prile anywhere.
Works for me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=prial&go=Go
Brian Howie
2009-12-27 20:04:15 UTC
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Post by Lou Ravi
I was talking to a bloke about poker today and was reminded....
I played a little bit of poker donkeys' years ago, as one does during
dissolute youth, enough to lose that week's beer money in occasional
friendly games. We usually played with five cards, sometimes three. I've no
idea if we played by the "official" rules but everyone seemd happy enough
with them so they probably were.
One of the good hands, excellent in a three card game, was having three
cards of the same number. We called it, or pronounced it as in the header, a
'prial'. However the spelling might be prile, or something else. Most of us
lads had London accents and tended to stick dipthongues in where they
weren't supposed to be. I really couldn't say as I've never seen the word
written down, only heard it.
While having the chat about poker to the friend, I remembered the word again
and wondered about its etymology. I went to look it up, starting from the
French equivalent 'un brelan' expecting to get the correct spelling from
there via a translation, but all I got was "three cards with the same
number" as replies. I can't find prial/prile anywhere.
Anybody know this word or did the bloke who set our poker rules make it up?
Http://www.csmid.com/files/MarksmanGameBookWeb.pdf

Mentions pryal for Brag.

Brian
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Marc Wilson
2009-12-29 17:38:15 UTC
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Post by Lou Ravi
I was talking to a bloke about poker today and was reminded....
I played a little bit of poker donkeys' years ago, as one does during
dissolute youth, enough to lose that week's beer money in occasional
friendly games. We usually played with five cards, sometimes three. I've no
idea if we played by the "official" rules but everyone seemd happy enough
with them so they probably were.
There are at least a couple of dozen variants of poker, and given local
variations, probably hundreds or even thousands of combinations.
Post by Lou Ravi
One of the good hands, excellent in a three card game, was having three
cards of the same number. We called it, or pronounced it as in the header, a
'prial'. However the spelling might be prile, or something else. Most of us
lads had London accents and tended to stick dipthongues in where they
weren't supposed to be. I really couldn't say as I've never seen the word
written down, only heard it.
Prael, IIRC.
Post by Lou Ravi
While having the chat about poker to the friend, I remembered the word again
and wondered about its etymology. I went to look it up, starting from the
French equivalent 'un brelan' expecting to get the correct spelling from
there via a translation, but all I got was "three cards with the same
number" as replies. I can't find prial/prile anywhere.
Anybody know this word or did the bloke who set our poker rules make it up?
If he did I want my money back.
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