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Warren Pearce
2020-11-01 14:19:27 UTC
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Marc Wilson
2020-11-04 02:35:38 UTC
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Fail.
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Kerr-Mudd,John
2020-11-07 16:38:18 UTC
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Fail.
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Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Andy Burns
2020-11-07 16:53:15 UTC
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Fail.
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Ah I see; a hotbed of drug suppliers.
That's about the level of it ...
Kerr-Mudd,John
2020-11-09 12:16:07 UTC
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Fail.
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Ah I see; a hotbed of drug suppliers.
That's about the level of it ...
But which is best?
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Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Kerr-Mudd, John
2021-04-23 11:03:57 UTC
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Fail.
Blank.
Ah I see; a hotbed of drug suppliers.
That's about the level of it ...
But which is best?
British!
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Bah, and indeed Humbug.
Sn!pe
2021-04-23 12:58:01 UTC
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:16:07 -0000 (UTC)
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Fail.
Blank.
Ah I see; a hotbed of drug suppliers.
That's about the level of it ...
But which is best?
British!
Testify, Brother!
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-02-27 01:43:28 UTC
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Fail.
Pass.
Kerr-Mudd,John
2021-02-27 12:39:28 UTC
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 01:43:28 GMT, "Fevric J. Glandules"
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Fail.
Pass.
Pshurely alt.test would be the place?
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Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Sn!pe
2021-02-27 20:10:22 UTC
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Fail.
Pass.
Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-05-15 23:10:12 UTC
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Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
Working on it.
Sn!pe
2021-05-15 23:33:17 UTC
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Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
Working on it.
Follow my example, dear boy.
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Kerr-Mudd, John
2021-05-16 11:17:28 UTC
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 00:33:17 +0100
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Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
Working on it.
Follow my example, dear boy.
On the internet no-one knows you're a zombie.
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Bah, and indeed Humbug.
Sn!pe
2021-05-16 15:26:56 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
On Sun, 16 May 2021 00:33:17 +0100
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Post by Fevric J. Glandules
Post by Sn!pe
Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
Working on it.
Follow my example, dear boy.
On the internet no-one knows you're a zombie.
The stitching around the neck gives it away.
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Kerr-Mudd, John
2021-05-16 17:03:59 UTC
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 16:26:56 +0100
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
On Sun, 16 May 2021 00:33:17 +0100
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Post by Fevric J. Glandules
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Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
Working on it.
Follow my example, dear boy.
On the internet no-one knows you're a zombie.
The stitching around the neck gives it away.
Darn it!
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Bah, and indeed Humbug.
Fevric J. Glandules
2021-05-17 23:11:42 UTC
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Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
Working on it.
Follow my example, dear boy.
What's your technique?
Sn!pe
2021-05-18 00:57:02 UTC
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Good lard, Glandules, I thought you were dead.
Working on it.
Follow my example, dear boy.
What's your technique?
More than half a century of assiduous self-abuse.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-05-18 16:32:06 UTC
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More than half a century of assiduous self-abuse.
Nothing like that round here, oh no.
Sn!pe
2021-05-18 19:45:36 UTC
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More than half a century of assiduous self-abuse.
Nothing like that round here, oh no.
Every good boy should live a pure and blameless life.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-05-19 23:54:07 UTC
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Every good boy should live a pure and blameless life.
I'll take that on board.

Nal bs gur byq perj fgvyy cbc va urer?

Urneq sebz zbabphyne zbaboebj?
Sn!pe
2021-05-20 10:30:57 UTC
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Post by Sn!pe
Every good boy should live a pure and blameless life.
I'll take that on board.
Nal bs gur byq perj fgvyy cbc va urer?
Urneq sebz zbabphyne zbaboebj?
Va gur cnfg pbhcyr bs lrnef V'ir frra gurfr crbcyr xabja gb zr:
Znephf Ubhyqra
Ze Thrfg
ZV5 Zvxr
Evpuneq Gbova
Naql Oheaf
Xree-Zhqq,Wbua
V'z abg fher jub zbabphyne zbaboebj vf, qb lbh zrna NJ?

V bsgra guvax bs gur zvfpernagf bs lber; ner BO naq Yvam fgvyy nobhg?
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Kerr-Mudd, John
2021-05-20 12:46:48 UTC
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On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:30:57 +0100
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Xree-Zhqq,Wbua
I just popped in to see it was a desert well after I presume some major flamefest had left it as a shell for driveby spammers.
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Sn!pe
2021-05-20 13:12:35 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
On Thu, 20 May 2021 11:30:57 +0100
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Xree-Zhqq,Wbua
I just popped in to see it was a desert well after I presume some
major flamefest had left it as a shell for driveby spammers.
MI5 Mike usually includes misc in his spamathons,
that attracts all kinds of undesirables.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-05-20 20:02:35 UTC
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V'z abg fher jub zbabphyne zbaboebj vf, qb lbh zrna NJ?
Zbabphyne pbf vg jnf Vna jvgu bar 'v'. Zbaboebj pbf vg jnf.
Syrzvat jvgu bar 'z' VVEP.
Sn!pe
2021-05-20 21:31:44 UTC
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V'z abg fher jub zbabphyne zbaboebj vf, qb lbh zrna NJ?
Zbabphyne pbf vg jnf Vna jvgu bar 'v'. Zbaboebj pbf vg jnf.
Syrzvat jvgu bar 'z' VVEP.
yby

Zvfp. jnf nyjnlf terng sbe anzrf - V cnegvphyneyl yvxrq
Ubg Onqtre Qryhkr (EVC).
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Mr Guest
2021-05-20 22:19:31 UTC
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Rirel tbbq obl fubhyq yvir n cher naq oynzryrff yvsr.
V'yy gnxr gung ba obneq.
Any of the old crew still pop in here?
Heard from monocular monobrow?
Marcus Houlden
Mr Guest
MI5 Mike
Richard Tobin
Andy Burns
Kerr-Mudd,John
I'm not sure who monocular monobrow is, do you mean AW?
I often think of the miscreants of yore; are OB and Linz still about?
I very rarely actually post but still regularly read a number of groups. For
a few months last year a lack of jbex (or is that reserved for use in urs?)
meant little to do other than care for my dear ma or watch the haunted
fishtank.

All told, touch wood etc. none of my friends and family have suffered at the
hands of this blessed nuisance. Long may it continue. Hope all former,
present and future miscreants keep well.
--
Mr Guest
Always, seemingly, on the road to nowhere
Sn!pe
2021-05-21 22:26:59 UTC
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Mr Guest <***@guest-spamtrap.co.uk> wrote:
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Marcus Houlden
Mr Guest
MI5 Mike
Richard Tobin
Andy Burns
Kerr-Mudd,John
I'm not sure who monocular monobrow is, do you mean AW?
I often think of the miscreants of yore; are OB and Linz still about?
I very rarely actually post but still regularly read a number of groups.
For a few months last year a lack of jbex (or is that reserved for use in
urs?) meant little to do other than care for my dear ma or watch the
haunted fishtank.
I've never been keen on 'sheddisms' being used outside of the
shed itself and now that I've fled the shed I try to use them
sparingly, if at all. It was an expression of 'Shed Culture'
back in the days when that place was a refuge from the general
run of Usenet and helped to set it apart, but alas those days
are gone and so is most of the culture.

Top marks for caring for your ma; I wish more youngsters did
the same.
Post by Mr Guest
All told, touch wood etc. none of my friends and family have suffered at
the hands of this blessed nuisance. Long may it continue. Hope all former,
present and future miscreants keep well.
I do know a few people who've had the virus and mercifully they've
all come through it, mostly unscathed unscathed. I'm sorry to say
that some people in Mrs S's social circle didn't.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-05-25 23:06:11 UTC
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Sn!pe wrote:

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I've never been keen on 'sheddisms' being used outside of the
shed itself and now that I've fled the shed I try to use them
The shed was, as I recall it, an offshoot of .misc, where a
certain amount of Rot-13 was already in place, including things
like "jbex", which a) is pronounceable and b) sounds like a
swear word.

What I particularly enjoyed was the conversations carried out
entirely in acronym. You'd spend an age working out what was
being said, and then an age composing one with just enough Clues
in it to enable someone to respond. Boif V arire qvq guvf ba
zl rzcyblre'f gvzr.
Post by Sn!pe
I do know a few people who've had the virus and mercifully they've
all come through it, mostly unscathed unscathed. I'm sorry to say
that some people in Mrs S's social circle didn't.
Two dead in the first wave, one more in the second, at least.
And another with "long covid". At least.

I have found that attitudes correlate. I found myself last
year regularly refuting idiocy found on Facebook. (Not on
FB myself, they would get forwarded to me for comment).

E.g. this sort of thing:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-japanese-nobel-coronavirus-idUSKBN22G1XE
A - the science was so bad I could dismiss it instantly
B - even a trivial search of the interwebs would come up
with an official statement that he never said that.
Sn!pe
2021-05-28 22:48:59 UTC
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Post by Sn!pe
I've never been keen on 'sheddisms' being used outside of the
shed itself and now that I've fled the shed I try to use them
The shed was, as I recall it, an offshoot of .misc, where a
certain amount of Rot-13 was already in place, including things
like "jbex", which a) is pronounceable and b) sounds like a
swear word.
I think it was OB who started it.
Post by Fevric J. Glandules
What I particularly enjoyed was the conversations carried out
entirely in acronym. You'd spend an age working out what was
being said, and then an age composing one with just enough Clues
in it to enable someone to respond. Boif V arire qvq guvf ba
zl rzcyblre'f gvzr.
The Shed of yore was a wonderful place, full of wit, whimsy and
weirdness but alas most of that has faded away now. I do miss
many of the old characters; I received much kindness in there.
Post by Fevric J. Glandules
Post by Sn!pe
I do know a few people who've had the virus and mercifully they've
all come through it, mostly unscathed unscathed. I'm sorry to say
that some people in Mrs S's social circle didn't.
Two dead in the first wave, one more in the second, at least.
And another with "long covid". At least.
I have found that attitudes correlate. I found myself last
year regularly refuting idiocy found on Facebook. (Not on
FB myself, they would get forwarded to me for comment).
<https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-japanese-nobel-coronavirus-idUSKBN22G1XE>
A - the science was so bad I could dismiss it instantly
B - even a trivial search of the interwebs would come up
with an official statement that he never said that.
I have little doubt that that the pandemic strain was engineered - see
"gain of function" research reported in many places. These are strange
times indeed; the world has changed.
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Kerr-Mudd, John
2021-05-30 09:03:34 UTC
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***@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
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Post by Sn!pe
The Shed of yore was a wonderful place, full of wit, whimsy and
weirdness but alas most of that has faded away now. I do miss
many of the old characters; I received much kindness in there.
It still is; just don't mention Br*x*t.
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.
Sn!pe
2021-05-30 19:54:31 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:48:59 +0100
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Post by Sn!pe
The Shed of yore was a wonderful place, full of wit, whimsy and
weirdness but alas most of that has faded away now. I do miss
many of the old characters; I received much kindness in there.
It still is; just don't mention Br*x*t.
Brexit is a fait accompli and the Remainder must like it or lump it.

Political incontinents ruined the Shed with their tub-thumping.
It's just another dwindling group now, one among thousands.
The culture that made that place so special was lost long ago.

This place being charterless uk.misc, no such concerns exist here;
nothing is forbidden except "no advertising in uk.misc, fuckwit."
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My pet rock Gordon just is.
Fevric J. Glandules
2021-06-08 15:15:55 UTC
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I have little doubt that that the pandemic strain was engineered - see
"gain of function" research reported in many places. These are strange
times indeed; the world has changed.
Oh rilly?

Worldwide viral pandemics are inevitable, and re-occurring. Why would
this one be different? Wikipedia lists them as happening in 1968,
1957, 1918, 1889. The main difference AFAICS is that this time very
few people have a memory of a previous one.
Sn!pe
2021-06-08 17:22:17 UTC
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Post by Fevric J. Glandules
Post by Sn!pe
I have little doubt that that the pandemic strain was engineered - see
"gain of function" research reported in many places. These are strange
times indeed; the world has changed.
Oh rilly?
Worldwide viral pandemics are inevitable, and re-occurring. Why would
this one be different? Wikipedia lists them as happening in 1968,
1957, 1918, 1889. The main difference AFAICS is that this time very
few people have a memory of a previous one.
Certainly there have been worldwide viral pandemics throughout the
centuries; indeed they are inevitable and re-occurring. I write only
about the origin of this particular current virus.
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Fevric J. Glandules
2021-06-08 23:17:45 UTC
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Certainly there have been worldwide viral pandemics throughout the
centuries; indeed they are inevitable and re-occurring. I write only
about the origin of this particular current virus.
I understand you.

But is a lab leak *more* probable than a natural species-leak?

The possibility should not be discounted; OTOH those who know
this stuff have sequenced the gene and (apparently) found it
entirely consistent with a natural origin.

This is worth a look, from 2007:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2007/02/severe-pandemic-not-overdue-its-not-when-if
Sn!pe
2021-06-09 01:38:35 UTC
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Post by Sn!pe
Certainly there have been worldwide viral pandemics throughout the
centuries; indeed they are inevitable and re-occurring. I write only
about the origin of this particular current virus.
I understand you.
But is a lab leak *more* probable than a natural species-leak?
The possibility should not be discounted; OTOH those who know
this stuff have sequenced the gene and (apparently) found it
entirely consistent with a natural origin.
I think "natural origin" is far from proven. "Gain of function"
experiments, i.e. to increase infectivity in humans, is rather more
than suspect, IMO.
Post by Fevric J. Glandules
<https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2007/02/severe-pandemic-not-overdue-its-not-when-if>
I don't dispute that, however that article is about Influenza. My
understanding is that most new strains of 'flu come about because
of cohabition of humans with livestock, generally fowl, such as is
common in rural China. This facilitates interspecies transmission
and permutation of the Hx and Ny components of the 'flu virus.

Coronavirus is not Influenza, as I'm sure you know. Spontaneous
mutation of Coronavirus, once in the wild, is to be expected because
of its reproduction method. Coronaviruses are prone to mutation by
their nature as an RNA virus (I think, not sure). This says not much
about species-jumping, of course.

However, the smoking gun would appear to be reports of apparently
engineered gene sequences included in Covid-19. That said, I doubt
we will ever know the truth of the matter because of Chinese obstruction
of the recent visiting inspection team and the reported "disappearance"
of both evidence and some of the scientists involved.

Natural? Accidental? Even (perish the thought) deliberate? Experience
shows that Covid is most deadly among the elderly; you might even call
it a "Geriatric Culling Virus". Consider how that might benefit China
with its severe demographic problems, particularly care of the elderly,
as a result of their earlier 'one child per couple' policy. Then there
is the disruption of the rest of the world's economies: a cynical person
might think that useful to China in its current expansionist mood.

Conspiracy theories aside, I'd say that the jury is still out.
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My pet rock Gordon just is.
Fevric J. Glandules
2021-06-10 00:04:14 UTC
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Post by Sn!pe
I think "natural origin" is far from proven. "Gain of function"
experiments, i.e. to increase infectivity in humans, is rather more
than suspect, IMO.
Far from proven, yes, but how do you prove it? Gain of function
suspect yes, but how much? What's the probability of something
that happens naturally, frequently, being artificial?

<snip>
Post by Sn!pe
However, the smoking gun would appear to be reports of apparently
engineered gene sequences included in Covid-19. That said, I doubt
we will ever know the truth of the matter because of Chinese obstruction
of the recent visiting inspection team and the reported "disappearance"
of both evidence and some of the scientists involved.
I think the guy who first commented about "engineered gene sequences"
has backtracked somewhat, and said that the sequences (or specifically
the "furin cleavage site") involved have also been observed naturally.
Post by Sn!pe
Natural? Accidental? Even (perish the thought) deliberate? Experience
shows that Covid is most deadly among the elderly; you might even call
it a "Geriatric Culling Virus". Consider how that might benefit China
with its severe demographic problems, particularly care of the elderly,
Well they appeared to have not taken advantage of it...
Post by Sn!pe
Conspiracy theories aside, I'd say that the jury is still out.
Early days yet. Not just virologists but sociologists, psychologists,
economists and well, any academic anywhere, will be writing papers
for decades to come.

In the meantime, balance of probabilities for me.
Stephen Wolstenholme
2021-06-10 12:29:49 UTC
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Post by Fevric J. Glandules
Post by Sn!pe
I have little doubt that that the pandemic strain was engineered - see
"gain of function" research reported in many places. These are strange
times indeed; the world has changed.
Oh rilly?
Worldwide viral pandemics are inevitable, and re-occurring. Why would
this one be different? Wikipedia lists them as happening in 1968,
1957, 1918, 1889. The main difference AFAICS is that this time very
few people have a memory of a previous one.
I remember polio and it's treatments from about 65 years ago. Polio is
still spreading in some countries.

Steve
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Sn!pe
2021-06-30 13:41:14 UTC
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 15:15:55 -0000 (UTC), "Fevric J. Glandules"
Post by Fevric J. Glandules
Post by Sn!pe
I have little doubt that that the pandemic strain was engineered - see
"gain of function" research reported in many places. These are strange
times indeed; the world has changed.
Oh rilly?
Worldwide viral pandemics are inevitable, and re-occurring. Why would
this one be different? Wikipedia lists them as happening in 1968,
1957, 1918, 1889. The main difference AFAICS is that this time very
few people have a memory of a previous one.
I remember polio and it's treatments from about 65 years ago.
Polio is still spreading in some countries.
Steve
As it happens, I caught Polio in 1956 at age seven; I spent four
weeks in isolation hospital because of it. I was very fortunate
and made a full recovery, many didn't. The worst of it for me
was that it left me as a weedy child, always picked last for
football, so it wasn't all bad.

Some years ago Polio was almost eradicated; that campaign was
thwarted by the antivaxxers of the day who refused the vaccine
on spurious tribal/religious grounds.
--
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My pet rock Gordon just is.
Richard Tobin
2021-05-26 17:43:22 UTC
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Evpuneq Gbova
I've just returned after a brief absence caused my my news server
failing. I took its graphics card out and it seems to be running
again, but I don't have much hope for its long term survival.

-- Richard
Sn!pe
2021-05-28 22:49:01 UTC
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Evpuneq Gbova
I've just returned after a brief absence caused my my news server
failing. I took its graphics card out and it seems to be running
again, but I don't have much hope for its long term survival.
-- Richard
Greetings, Richard, long may your machine survive. I think I've
recently seen you elsewhere too; maybe in the Mac group.
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